Subject	"All this of course is secondary to responsibility ...
Posted by	Ted (92TT) on December 02, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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In Reply To	yet another wrinkle to the whole story I remember reading posted by LJZTT on December 02, 2013 at 05:55 PM
Message	... of the driver to not engage in ridiculously reckless behavior." Paul Walker death: City increased speed limit at crash site last year Richard Winton, Los Angeles Times December 2, 2013, 5:00 p.m. The Santa Clarita street where "Fast and Furious" actor Paul Walker and his business partner died in a explosive car crash Saturday had its speed limit increased to 45 mph from 35 last year. Santa Clarita city officials approved the speed limit increase as part of a regular five-year traffic survey mandated by state law, Gail Ortiz said about the stretch of Hercules Street. Paul Walker's car wasn't racing, source says; speed in curve may have been a factor Maria Elena Fernandez, NBC News 4 hours ago The Porsche that actor Paul Walker was riding in when he died on Saturday was traveling at approximately 40 to 45 mph when it came to a bend in the road where the speed limit drops to about 15 mph, a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation told NBC News on Monday. It was in that vicinity where the driver, Roger Rodas, apparently lost control of the vehicle, ending in the fiery solo accident, the source said.
Follow Ups	Goodbye Mister Arizona :-( - ZEngineer 22:05:48 11/30/13 That's some bad news..gunna miss him. (n/m) - 1bad300t.t. 22:24:29 11/30/13 Crazy. That happened about five minutes from my house - Zu4ea 00:37:58 12/01/13 So sad (n/m) - Hydrus (Dallas) 01:25:09 12/01/13 Carerra GT is as good a way to go out as any I suppose - LJZTT 02:47:03 12/01/13 Showing a little empathy is a sign of an evolved human being (n/m) - ZEngineer 09:41:24 12/01/13 His pal was an idiot, and had his pal survived he should be - LJZTT 11:27:44 12/01/13 Nobody's asking you to gush tears - ZEngineer 11:35:01 12/01/13 you know what is even more tasteless? driving 100+ mph - LJZTT 11:47:51 12/01/13 Just curious - I haven't read anywhere yet that this occured - black300zx 12:04:25 12/01/13 it was a car show - LJZTT 12:13:31 12/01/13 Gotcha - glad no bystanders were injured (n/m) - black300zx 18:17:20 12/01/13 if the part about it being less than 1/4mi from the entrance - LJZTT 21:10:59 12/01/13 lol only f&f 1 and 3 are car movies - fuzzymonkey 22:05:24 12/01/13 obvi - he lived his live 1/4 mile at a time (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 01:27:44 12/02/13 lol you couldnt resist could you? (n/m) - LJZTT 09:53:27 12/02/13 it was too easy (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 17:44:41 12/02/13 He was the passenger. (n/m) - GatorJ 16:04:09 12/01/13 Yep. For all we know he was begging his buddy to slow down (n/m) - ZXoltan 20:28:25 12/01/13 thanks for repeating what I already wrote (n/m) - LJZTT 21:46:34 12/01/13 Everyone on this forum breaks the speed limit... - BEASTT 15:16:56 12/02/13 I can say with 100% certainty that I will not find myself in - LJZTT 19:02:19 12/02/13 Well said Mr. Perfect - BEASTT 13:30:25 12/04/13 maybe you would feel slightly differently if you lived in LA - LJZTT 11:50:09 12/01/13 True (n/m) - ConVerTT 12:20:33 12/01/13 +1 on tasteless or classless, both fit the bill. - samsung-Z [Houston] 13:47:36 12/01/13 speaking of idiots..... (n/m) - LJZTT 21:05:38 12/01/13 We were doing quite fine here the last 3 months without you - Aqualung 09:03:33 12/02/13 Umm. The "good thing they only killed themselves" sentiment - ConVerTT 13:58:36 12/01/13 Lol..Lighten up (n/m) - eriksu9 08:10:07 12/02/13 So you've never exceded the posted speed limit in your Z - Jayru 16:06:12 12/01/13 *exceeded (n/m) - Jayru 16:09:25 12/01/13 are you seriously that dense? (n/m) - LJZTT 21:25:33 12/01/13 Whats the offset on those wheels? - inski 17:04:39 12/01/13 LMAO! (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 17:38:32 12/01/13 Sorry, I think it's moronic, with all the important stuff - zellamay 06:57:52 12/01/13 He has plenty of fans and was star of a $1B movie franchise - dpjax 08:39:54 12/01/13 I was thinking the WAY he died was what made it - LJZTT 11:33:20 12/01/13 It can serve as a wake up call for the rest of us (n/m) - ZEngineer 09:38:57 12/01/13 Agree ^^ - Zu4ea 23:00:15 12/01/13 True, it could have happened on an F1 track late at night. (n/m) - vorpalZ 23:25:40 12/01/13 lol - Aqualung 13:25:58 12/02/13 Dang a bit harsh, don't you think? (n/m) - stockplayerz(nyc) 10:31:31 12/01/13 Yes, a bit harsh. I could have said it better. (n/m) - zellamay 12:58:14 12/01/13 Screw em - MrOzzie5183 10:45:00 12/01/13 Did you read where he was headed when he crashed? (n/m) - ZEngineer 10:47:39 12/01/13 says who? his PUBLICIST? - LJZTT 11:38:23 12/01/13 300 yards from the charity event - MrOzzie5183 12:44:17 12/01/13 Irony, Murphy's Law, Karma ... - ConVerTT 13:17:47 12/01/13 Karma? Don't be an ASS!!!! (n/m) - GatorJ 16:01:14 12/01/13 Okay. - ConVerTT 19:28:45 12/01/13 Whatever the circumstance,sad so sad... (n/m) - JAMMZ 15:51:14 12/01/13 Spoken like a class act. I share your sentiment (n/m) - ZEngineer 16:44:39 12/01/13 Wish ppl would stop passing judgement and name calling... - Z-line 16:08:15 12/01/13 ^ Best statement I've seen yet. Well said. (n/m) - The Hawk 12:13:06 12/02/13 you miss the entire point - LJZTT 15:13:32 12/02/13 While I agree with you so some degree, I'm sure Paul - michaell32 (FL) 17:28:58 12/02/13 pure speculation - LJZTT 17:59:57 12/02/13 You guys are bickering and whining over this dude like he - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 16:10:44 12/01/13 He was kinda dreamy with the blond hair and deep blue eyes. (n/m) - ZEngineer 16:47:22 12/01/13 Haha..okay, I'll admit he was kinda dreamy... - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 17:36:27 12/01/13 i'd fuck him...or the very least let him suck me off (n/m) - genic 11:27:31 12/02/13 Catch 22 : My comment is not whether this guy is good - zellamay 16:25:06 12/01/13 wonder about the new movie... - nissan300zxwork 17:48:30 12/01/13 Its said they will move forward with ff7 in honor of paul - Z32TT-R 20:06:25 12/01/13 Wouldnt they be allowed to use his footage? he was - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 21:36:46 12/01/13 Of course they can. Remember the Crow?Batman (lessor extent) - dogpile 08:23:02 12/02/13 nothing I have read indicated that Walker had already done - LJZTT 19:08:50 12/02/13 I heard "he was about to film key scenes in FF7" - dogpile 22:15:43 12/02/13 The Porsche GTC has a history of being difficult to handle - BlitZ91TT 22:29:27 12/01/13 well - I imagine that tires were not all that warm - The Devils Z 22:58:44 12/01/13 I must agree that the driver pushed past the limits of - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 07:02:06 12/02/13 Seriously wow. Just watched the Top Gear part - Obeeone 11:02:23 12/02/13 The driver wasn't an 'average Joe' - vorpalZ 11:18:55 12/02/13 EXACTLY - LJZTT 15:02:09 12/02/13 Very true... I looked up his history on their FB wall - BlitZ91TT 22:16:53 12/02/13 I feel for his family and young daughter - Z32turbo1990(Houston) 15:25:57 12/02/13 They found a trail of power steering fluid. - Antihero 17:42:12 12/02/13 you know the publicists and other - LJZTT 00:30:36 12/03/13 I agree. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 17:50:48 12/04/13 yet another wrinkle to the whole story I remember reading - LJZTT 17:55:05 12/02/13 "All this of course is secondary to responsibility ... - Ted (92TT) 22:28:52 12/02/13 100% bull - LJZTT 00:13:39 12/03/13 Looks similar to the Top Gear curve with Stig posted above - ConVerTT 11:35:28 12/03/13 and not nearly as slow as the Top Gear curve - LJZTT 11:48:10 12/03/13 You were in that M3 when it flipped?? - Dallas DamonZ 15:12:18 12/03/13 riding shotgun (n/m) - LJZTT 15:51:09 12/03/13 100% bull or 1% bull or ??? - Ted (92TT) 19:39:43 12/03/13 Well if you look at the map ... - ConVerTT 20:50:02 12/03/13 lol whatever, ignore the obvious (n/m) - LJZTT 21:52:37 12/03/13 What a shame. One of my fave production cars of all time. (n/m) - Aqualung 13:38:42 12/02/13 same here, well 2nd behind the Zonda - LJZTT 18:06:33 12/02/13 Here's a video of the garage he supposedly owned with Z32 - WhiTTe Z (NY) 18:53:05 12/02/13 Z32 at 54sec mark -- porsche GT C at 1:12 sec mark (n/m) - The Devils Z 19:45:51 12/02/13 Nice catch. (n/m) - OverZealous (CT) 21:47:21 12/02/13 Theres a lot of the Z32 in the 36s range too (n/m) - -Grimm- 11:48:18 12/03/13
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